Dr. Adam Johns
ENGCMP- Seminar in Composition
September 22, 2008
Enlightenment versus Conversion
In “An Answer to Enlightenment: What is Enlightenment” Immanuel Kant discusses how individuals should not be bound by “immature” ideas. These ideas range from religion to simply relying on others for guidance in life. Kant’s solution to this self inflicted problem is enlightenment. According to Kant, “Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed immaturity”(Kant 1). Kant’s argument of people enlightening is similar to the argument that Lee Silver presents in “Challenging Nature” but, it is also different in many ways.
Kant’s main argument is that people should think for themselves. He believes that individuals should not rely on the past to control there beliefs when knowledge in the present disproves these notions. Kant also believes that no individual should be able to control the amount of knowledge that others in the present or future are able to attain. This idea of enlightenment is not just against religious beliefs but, these are the main beliefs that restrict knowledge in other areas. According to Kant some heads of states have allowed religious leaders to control the spiritual beliefs of their public (Kant 3). Handing over control of the spiritual minds of the public to the clergy does not profit the head of state as Kant calls this, “when he despoils his highest authority by supporting the spiritual despotism of some tyrants in his state over his other subjects”(Kant 3). Kant even provides evidence that spiritual freedom for the masses would benefit the leader of the country. He says, “allowing his subjects to use reason publicly and to set before the world their thoughts concerning better formulation of his laws.”(Kant 4) All of these ideas expressed by Kant are commonly accepted today.
The concepts of religious freedom and the freedom to believe what you want are excepted throughout the Western World. I am one of the many who excepts the beliefs that were put forth by Immanuel Kant. Every individual should be able to learn what they want so they can satiate their curiosity. This process of enlightenment has been beneficial to all of society since the time of Kant. It has worked to reform are government just as was predicted. I also agree with Kant’s theory that no one should be able to control the ideas of future generations. As he says, “A man may put off enlightenment with regard to what he ought to know, though only for a short time and for his own person; but to renounce it for himself, or, even more, for subsequent generations, is to violate and trample man’s divine rights underfoot.”(Kant 3). The outdated ideas of the past should not be able to control those of the future.
The ideas of Kant are similar to those put forth by Silver. Both of these individuals believe the obsolete ideas of the past need to be forgotten. They also have compatible ideas of science tearing away parts of religion. However, this is where the similarities end. While Kant believes in self enlightenment Silver believes in a more aggressive approach. With quotes that undermine peoples beliefs such as, “In other words, natural is not a measurable physical attribute, which means that it resides in the supernatural realm”(Silver 231), Silver suggests that people accept modern science because their way is wrong. This idea of converting others into believing ideas is exactly what Kant is against. Conversion by others is the same as the “laziness” and “cowardice” that philosophers of the enlightenment were fighting. Silver and other scientists like him are the same as the religious leaders of the past. They try to control the beliefs of others with the knowledge they possess. Or as Kant puts it, “The guardians who have so benevolently taken over the supervision of men have carefully seen to it that the far greatest part of them (including the entire fair sex) regard taking the step to maturity as very dangerous, not to mention difficult.”(Kant 1) Whether following the ideas imposed on them by religion or modern science people are not enlightening themselves if they do not think for themselves. Silver is suggesting an idea in which people stop thinking for themselves and listen to someone else just because they have knowledge on the subject.
Kant’s ideas of enlightenment contrast with those of religious fundamentalists and those of extreme scientists. Whether in the present or in the past both of these groups wish to control the beliefs of others. The whole premise of enlightenment is for individuals to learn on their own and not rely on others. People like Silver are against religious fundamentalists but, they are similar in the fact that both groups want to convert people to there beliefs, many times using the government to facilitate this. They want the government to take their stance so that the public will be pressured to follow. This is something that Kant would not approve of since he was opposed to the government allowing others to control the beliefs of the people.
Lee Silver might consider himself similar to the philosophers of the enlightenment who challenged the ideas of the status quo. However, these philosophers challenged people to think for themselves while Silver only wants people to accept his ideas. Kant said, “‘Have courage to use your own understanding!’--that is the motto of enlightenment.”(Kant 1) If Silver only informed people of his beliefs and did not condemn the beliefs of others as wrong maybe his argument could be considered enlightening.
3 comments:
As we talked about in class, your paper is very well written. I really liked how you tied all the paragraphs together well, had a strong argument, used a wide range of examples, and kept it narrowly focused. I did agree with a lot you said in your paper but I also disagreed with some of it in an opinionated sense.
That being said, if I had to “challenge” your paper I would say that I don’t necessarily think that Silver was trying to “convert” people into taking his side, but rather stating his opinion about the advancement biotechnology’s relationship with spirituality. The way I read the book, I thought it was supposed to be more of an informative book and I think that it can be taken either way: as an informative source or as something trying to force its beliefs upon you. I think that religion and spirituality is such a sensitive subject when it combines with science that any way Silver expressed his opinions he was going to receive criticism for it. Also, I think that it would have been impossible for him to leave out everything regarding spirituality when the book was about advancing technology because religion has a lot to do with why certain things in science are considered unethical. You paper made Silver out to be someone who wanted everyone to see things his way, however; I don’t think that was the case. Overall, I think that if your paper found a way to appease both sides of the argument (for and against the way Silver’s ideas come across) I think it would have been just “that more” successful (even though it definitely already is).
Andre Cedeno
Dr. Adam Johns
ENGCMP- Seminar in Composition
September 22, 2008
Enlightenment versus Conversion
In “An Answer to Enlightenment: What is Enlightenment” Immanuel Kant discusses how individuals should not be bound by “immature” ideas. These ideas range from religion to simply relying on others for guidance in life. Kant’s solution to this self inflicted problem is enlightenment. According to Kant, “Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed immaturity”(Kant 1). Kant’s argument of people enlightening is similar to the argument that Lee Silver presents in “Challenging Nature” but, it is also different in many ways.
Kant’s main argument is that people should think for themselves. He believes that individuals should not rely on the past to control there beliefs when knowledge in the present disproves these notions. Kant also believes that no individual should be able to control the amount of knowledge that others in the present or future are able to attain. This idea of enlightenment is not just against religious beliefs but, these are the main beliefs that restrict knowledge in other areas. According to Kant some heads of states have allowed religious leaders to control the spiritual beliefs of their public (Kant 3). Handing over control of the spiritual minds of the public to the clergy does not profit the head of state as Kant calls this, “when he despoils his highest authority by supporting the spiritual despotism of some tyrants in his state over his other subjects”(Kant 3). Kant even provides evidence that spiritual freedom for the masses would benefit the leader of the country. He says, “allowing his subjects to use reason publicly and to set before the world their thoughts concerning better formulation of his laws.”(Kant 4) All of these ideas expressed by Kant are commonly accepted today.
The concepts of religious freedom and the freedom to believe what you want are excepted throughout the Western World. I am one of the many who excepts the beliefs that were put forth by Immanuel Kant. Every individual should be able to learn what they want so they can satiate their curiosity. This process of enlightenment has been beneficial to all of society since the time of Kant. It has worked to reform are government just as was predicted. I also agree with Kant’s theory that no one should be able to control the ideas of future generations. As he says, “A man may put off enlightenment with regard to what he ought to know, though only for a short time and for his own person; but to renounce it for himself, or, even more, for subsequent generations, is to violate and trample man’s divine rights underfoot.”(Kant 3). The outdated ideas of the past should not be able to control those of the future.
The ideas of Kant are similar to those put forth by Silver. Both of these individuals believe obsolete ideas of the past need to be forgotten. They also have compatible ideas of science tearing away parts of religion. However, this is where the similarities end. While Kant believes in self enlightenment Silver believes in a more aggressive approach. With quotes that undermine peoples beliefs such as, “In other words, natural is not a measurable physical attribute, which means that it resides in the supernatural realm”(Silver 231), Silver suggests that people accept modern science because their way is wrong. This idea of converting others into believing ideas is exactly what Kant is against. Conversion by others is the same as the “laziness” and “cowardice” that philosophers of the enlightenment were fighting. Silver and other scientists like him are the same as the religious leaders of the past in the fact they try to control the beliefs of others with the knowledge they possess. Or as Kant puts it, “The guardians who have so benevolently taken over the supervision of men have carefully seen to it that the far greatest part of them (including the entire fair sex) regard taking the step to maturity as very dangerous, not to mention difficult.”(Kant 1) An example of this occurs in Silver’s chapter entitled “All-Natural Medicine”, in which he discusses all the cons of herbal medicine but discusses none of its positive sides or the downsides of synthetic medicine. This one sided presentation of information can only serve one purpose, to get people to follow his beliefs. Whether following the ideas imposed on them by religion or modern science people are not enlightening themselves if they do not think for themselves. Silver is suggesting an idea in which people stop thinking for themselves and listen to someone else just because they have knowledge on the subject.
Kant’s ideas of enlightenment contrast with those of religious fundamentalists and those of extreme scientists. Whether in the present or in the past both of these groups wish to control the beliefs of others. The whole premise of enlightenment is for individuals to learn on their own and not rely on others. People like Silver are against religious fundamentalists but, they are similar in the fact that both groups want to convert people to there beliefs, many times using the government to facilitate this. An example of this is how Silver talks with a bias about government restrictions concerning two bioengineers, Nancy Jenkins and Neal Copeland. Silver says, “Jenkins and Copeland had become fed up with restrictive federal funding regulations… The political opposition— even in California— was just too great,”(Silver 137-138). These non-enlighteners want the government to take their stance so that the public will be pressured to follow. This is something that Kant would not approve of since he was opposed to the government allowing others to control the beliefs of the people.
Lee Silver might consider himself similar to the philosophers of the enlightenment who challenged the ideas of the status quo. However, these philosophers challenged people to think for themselves while Silver only wants people to accept his ideas. Kant said, “‘Have courage to use your own understanding!’--that is the motto of enlightenment.”(Kant 1) If Silver only informed people of his beliefs and did not condemn the beliefs of others as wrong or provide one sided information to prove his point, maybe his argument could be considered enlightening.
Kate- given the fact that you had to go after everyone else, this is a good response, but it might have been better if you'd had a couple passages in mind - some really concrete example.
As I discussed before, you don't have a clear thesis in the conventional spot; your understanding of Kant is clear, detailed, and interesting.
Much of your attack on Silver is new. I think going to the section on natural foods and medicines was a good idea, because many of us probably agree that his presentation is remarkably one-sided. The problem is that you don't really show us *where* and *how* it's one-sided; I basically agree with you, but you aren't presenting the evidence that would make your position convincing. And, while I think you are at least outlining a case, you are still making a big leap by arguing that Silver's attempt to "convert" or "convince" us is equivalent to the Church's "control" attacked by Kant. Are you arguing that Kant is against all forms of persuasion?
Your conclusion is fine. The critical thing here is that you have started, but not finished, the job of showing *how* Silver is equivalent to Kant's "pastors." You needed to delve more deeply into one of Silver's arguments (with the section on natural & organic foods being, again, an excellent choice!) to pull this off.
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